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--- Following message extracted from A_THEIST @ 1:374/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Mon Jul 31 23:31:27 1995
From: Christopher Baker
To: All
Date: 31 Jul 95 23:31:17
Subj: A_THEIST Echo Guidelines - regular repost
Attr: Local
MSGID: 1:374/14 301DA005
PID: GenMsg 4.24 [0002]
Date: 01 Aug 95 03:31:17 UTC
Basic Disclaimer:
This Echo operates under the premises espoused by American Atheists, Inc.,
but is in NO WAY connected to that organization other than the Moderator's
paid membership. This Echo does not represent American Atheists, Inc., nor
does it claim any link to those founders and writers of that organization.
The opinions expressed in this Echo are those of the writers identified in
the header of each message. No other responsibility is expressed or implied
for the content of the messages in this Echo.
This Echo does not exist to promote so-called 'freethought' groups or
publications [Freedom From Religion Foundation, American Humanist
Association, American Rationalist, Prometheus Books, Atheists United,
Humanist Quest for Truth, etc.] other than the goals of American Atheists,
Inc., as stated below. Promotion of those groups will be considered
'off-topic'. Participants from those groups are welcome to post so long as
they remember that prohibition and stick to rationales without advertising.
Publication of reading material or periodicals sources or addresses will not
be considered off-topic and are welcome in this Echo.
Echo facts:
This Echo is Hosted and Moderated by Christopher Baker from Rights On!,
FidoNet Node 1:374/14, in Titusville_FL_USA, and by Jackson Harding from
The Cockpit, FidoNet Node 3:800/857, in Hawthorndene_SA_Australia. Anyone
desiring a link to this Echo should contact their local Backbone links.
The Echo is now available on the Zone 1 Backbone and is sent to Zone 3
through Jackson Harding at 3:800/857.
This Echo provides a forum for the discussion of atheism and free thought.
It is not a sounding board for rabid anti-religionists or for
fundamentalist dogmas intended to 'save our souls' from the power of an
open mind.
NOTE:
Those who wish to engage in religious debate outside the scope of the
separation issue are directed to the HOLYSMOKE Echo from 1:152/20 [which
is now on the Zone 1 Backbone and is also gated to Zone 3] or one of the
other religious criticism Echos.
The subject of proof or non-proof of any god or gods is off-topic in this
Echo. As atheists we know the existence of god or gods is unproven and
unsupportable by logic, reason or scientific proof. The debate of existence
of god or gods is unnecessary and unwelcome. Go to HOLYSMOKE or a bible Echo
for such debate. In this Echo, there is no god or gods nor has there ever
been nor will there ever be.
The subject of changing the name or scope of this Echo from the posted name
and scope will be considered off-topic and not permitted. Anyone who finds
the Echo does not meet their expectations of what should be discussed is
encouraged to start one of their own that does.
The discussion of various philosophies that are debatable are NOT welcome
here. Please take such discussions to PHIL or the new ATHEISM Echo where
these conversations are encouraged.
Correction of the spelling, grammar, or style of other people's messages is
off-topic. It is pointless noise. Refrain from it.
Proselytizers and preachers of the 'gospel' will be unwelcome if they cannot
debate without resorting to 'you must believe this' or 'you must have faith'
or 'you will all fry in hell', etc. Such outbursts will result in the links
to the offending system being cut if the Sysop of that system cannot prevent
future outbursts of that type.
Personal attacks will not be permitted. Participants will confine themselves
to ideas and facts and avoid personality clashes or ego wars. Private
messages are not permitted. Sysops are expected to restrict this Echo to
public messages only.
In the discussion of atheism, the following definition will be the
operational precept of the Echo:
a-theism = free of religion.
Aliases are not permitted. It's time for atheists to come out of the closet.
Handles may be used so long as they are not used to avoid responsibility for
the attached posts, are normally used in other Echos, and where the actual
identity of the person under the handle is available upon request to the
Sysop of the posting system or the Moderator of this Echo.
A_THEIST ECHO OFF-TOPIC POSTING PENALTIES SCHEDULE
These penalties are listed only for those who cannot follow directions or
stick to the posted Guidelines and who fail to curtail their non-compliance
after being instructed by the Moderator to do so. It has been necessary in
the past to disconnect systems from their links to the A_THEIST Echo because
the Sysops of those systems refused to keep their traffic or the traffic of
their Users on the posted topics of the Echo, namely, separation of state
and church issues and atheist information.
Step 1: First off-topic message will result in a warning in the Echo;
Step 2: Second off-topic message will result in warning in the Echo
and Netmail to you or your Sysop if you are a User;
Step 3: Third off-topic message will result in the disconnection of
the offending system at the NEC and REC levels as required.
These penalties will be invoked only as a last resort when reason and
redirection has failed to bring the poster back on-topic or when it is
obvious that the poster has no intention of adhering to the posted
Guidelines.
End of Off-Topic Penalty Schedule
The President [Jon Murray] and Editor Emeritus [Madalyn O'Hair] of American
Atheists have been invited to participate in this Echo. Anyone desiring
membership or more information about the organization may write to Jon
Murray at: American Atheists, Inc., P.O. Box 140195, Austin, TX, 78714-0195.
Their telephone is: (512) 458-1244, 0900-1700 CT; FAX (512) 467-9525. AAI
also operates American Atheist Online Services [AAOS] through an electronic
bulletin board at: (512) 302-0223 [300-2400 bps]; (512) 302-0246 [300-
14400 bps]; (512) 302-0247 [300-14400 bps]. AAOS has a complete message
and file system with many sources of information and exchange. The Sysop
of AAOS is Robin Murray-O'Hair at FidoNet Node 1:382/1006. Robin does visit
this Echo.
Echo Purpose:
1. Stimulate freedom of thought and inquiry concerning religious dogmas
and practices;
2. Collect and disseminate information on all religions and their
histories;
3. Advocate and labor for the complete and absolute separation of
church and State;
4. Advocate and labor for a thoroughly secular system of education
available to all;
5. Encourage development and acceptance of a human ethical system
stressing the responsibility of individuals to society;
6. Develop and propagate a social philosophy in which man/woman is
the central figure who alone must be the strength of humanity;
7. Promote the study of arts and sciences for the enrichment of
human life.
"Atheism may be defined as the mental attitude which unreservedly accepts
the supremacy of reason and aims at establishing a life-style and ethical
outlook verifiable by experience and the scientific method, independent of
all arbitrary assumptions and creeds." American Atheists, Inc.
The current list of primary Echo link points is as follows:
1:374/14 [Host/Moderator], [Zone 1] Backbone, also available via the PODS.
Zone 3 is linked through 3:800/857.
Sample files of the A_THEIST Echo and a listing of Atheist files are
available from 1:374/14 as A_THEIST.ZIP or the magic filename of ATHEIST.
For anyone who does not understand these Guidelines as published, there is
a fully annotated version available as A_ECHO-A.RUL for file request from
this system. It is also included in the A_THEIST.ZIP sample file.
File requests are honored anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone 1 ZMH
[0500-0600 EDT; 0400-0500 EST] for FidoNet listed systems [and their legal
points] ONLY.
Welcome to a new dawn in religiously unimpeded thinking! [grin]
TTFN.
Chris & Jackson
A_THEIST Echo Moderators
--- GenMsg [0002] (cbak.rights@opus.global.org)
* Origin: Rights On!-A_THEIST Echo Mod/Host-Titusville_FL_USA (1:374/14)